the human rights of our enemies

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in 2004, on the UN international day for the victims of torture, dubya stated that “America stands against and will not tolerate torture.” he further stated that “The United States also remains steadfastly committed to upholding the Geneva Conventions, which have been the bedrock of protection in armed conflict for more than 50 years.”

ok. that’s hilarious. a real load of steaming brown poop, considering what’s in the CIA’s bag of interrogation tricks. torture as an interrogation technique? yes, you will find the cold cell and water boarding among these so called acceptable techniques. interesting – since such interrogation techniques violate the geneva convention of which the president spoke so passionately in the above quotes.

so, in the wake of the absolute horror unveiled in abu ghraib and given dubya’s attempts to undermine the geneva convention and challenge the habeas corpus principal, i – josephine public – face some serious realities. at the very least, a betrayal of truth – for, such abuses are beyond my imagination and comprehension, given my social, cultural and geographic setting. but, i must transcend that outrage and focus on the facts presented, on what’s said and on what’s not said. and most of all, on what it represents in terms of the political tide that’s turning here.

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it disturbs me. mostly because of my visionary way of looking at people and events. i see behaviours and actions as manifestations of an individual’s motivations. motivations being rooted in values and human ethics. and, very telling of any society’s values, is the conditions with which it’s prepared to live. what do we think we can live with as a society? what does that tell us about the value we collectively attach to life? pride? power? humanity? THINK ON IT.

i don’t see occurences in isolation. rather, as a culmination of circumstances, conditions, behaviours and actions. my present results from my past. my interaction can alter its course. my apathy and complacence leaves it unaltered. and so it is for world affairs. we look to dark lesions in human history with disdain and politically correct outrage. we tell ourselves we can’t imagine what those german people were thinking, voting for a monster like hitler. really? i think it’s quite simple, when you consider the social, political and cultural forces at work in german society at that time.

the horror of it all lies in its insidious nature. they did not vote hitler in based upon a platform of annihilating 6 million jewish people. they voted for him based on his fervor and passion to lift a weak, confused and floundering germany to a strong and proud germany. he spoke so passionately the comforting rhetoric the german public longed to hear, needed to hear. and once hooked into a belief tract, one sees what one wants to see and hears what one wants to hear. and of course, since its dawn as an institution, government has always carefully controlled the flow of information to its citizens, with a carefully crafted spin.

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considering the atrocities in our modern information era that went unnoticed as they unfolded – such as bosnia, abu ghraib, etc – it does not seem hard for me to imagine that a majority of the german public remained blissfully unaware of the ‘final solution.’ and then, consider the social and cultural climate of the time: rigid and intolerant to any deviations – a setting in which hatred and bigotry flourish.

the horror sinks to our own level even further, doesn’t it? for, don’t a goodly portion of people out there believe that all the abu ghraib torture fell upon deserving victims? ‘they’re the enemy! they don’t deserve human rights!’ sound like a familiar rhetoric? sound like the sort of rhetoric that gives rise to hatred and bigotry? it does to me …. chillingly so, in fact. isn’t that what underlies the american government’s assertion that terrorist will not receive ‘due process’ under the law?

and so … do you think america’s enemies deserve human rights? think, for a moment, before you answer. recall that hitler perceived the jewish people as his enemy, and, more importantly, as an enemy of the germany nation. whether you or i or the public at large agree or disagree is really beside the point. perception governs the direction of one’s action’s. that’s my point. which leads me to the conclusion that not much separates us, a 21st century society driven by fear, despair and rage, from that floundering and broken german society of 6 decades ago.

frightening, isn’t it?

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11 responses to “the human rights of our enemies

  1. you are the one who seems most hateful, I gotta tell ya.

  2. tell me brent. exactly how you figure that one, based upon this blog post? do you have something to contribute to this discussion? or have you just come around to kick sand in my eyes?

  3. brent, i have gone to your blog to see what you are all about. i tried to leave this comment on your blog, but unsure if i was successful. so this is my rebuttal to you.
    do your labels and fear philosophy assist you in dealing with these uncertain times? i wonder how do they, along with your puerile emotionally driven reasoning, assist you in advancing your goals? what are your goals? does all your fear-filled and hostile rhetoric have some point?
    the bottom line with the middle east is:
    a) the usa is indeed, has indeed stirred the pot, along with the entire west, particularly the uk, by sacrificing palestine to the post-ww2 zionist cause 60 years ago and by basically financing israel, including all the terrorism and human rights atrocities they have committed and continue to commmit against the palestinians in gaza;
    b) information which formed the basis upon which the USA and UK invaded iraq was largely fabricated. bush lied about hussein’s al-qaeda and 9/11 connections and wmd. and lets not kid ourselves, most of the atrocities that sadam hussein commited he commited while an ally of the usa;
    c) the fact that this current atmosphere of decentralized insurgency was completely unanticipated by the bush administration underscores the west’s ignorance where islam and the arab world is concerned;
    d) anyone out there who says the usa/uk should pull out of iraq wears blinders. the problems in iraq will not go away. we have long passed the point of no return. troops are there for the long haul. removing sadam turned out to be most foolish indeed. this will turn out to be another vietnam. or … if we continue on this road, we will have another somalia on our hands. iraqis are saying the current tortures, killings at the hands of insurgents are far worse than anything of which sadam hussein himself could have dreamed.
    e) regarding the enemy. we are them. they are us. in case you haven’t figured it out yet. we are ALL the enemy. homosapien. that’s the enemy.

  4. No, sorry, but I was watching the baseball game –you know America’s favorite pastime?

    Yeah, I know, that makes me an evil bigot, right?

  5. i try to live my life without all such labels. don’t you think there are enough labels out there?

    so, its official then? baseball still is america’s favourite pasttime? i wondered if someone hadn’t gone and changed it to strapping on big guns and shooting school students and their teachers.

  6. Humor, dude. Humor me.

    Yes, baseball is still America’s favorite pastime.

    You ought to think about the things that you enjoy about America. Do not let your anger rule your day.

    There are things that I can’t stand about many political issues, which is why I don’t let myself become totally obsessed with them to begin with.

    When it comes to politics, if it isn’t one butthole, then its another. So why get so infuriated about it?

    And I do not understand what you have against my blog, specifically, other than you read an article or two which you happen to disagree with. Trust me, you cannot possibly know what I’m thinking in my head, by reading an article or two from my blog.

    It’s about going out of your way to have an open mind.

    i try to live my life without all such labels. don’t you think there are enough labels out there?

    Yes, I do.

    Back to the article however, I do not see the comparison that you suggest.

    Speaking of labels, there seems to be a label or a theme of Nazi, or fascist. Am I wrong about this? Didn’t think so.

    Also, I do not think that any Americans are suggesting that since the enemy is our enemy, that we should not afford them human rights. This is a delicate issue, quite frankly, because on the one hand, we have to consider the consequences of not prying the vital information necessary to protect America, and all of the innocent victims of terrorism. And I say innocent, with great emphasis. We also need to remember what America represents, and not bury this, for the sake of piece of mind.

    I have heard arguments from you and many others that America created this terror. That’s total B.S., because nobody, including you, can tell me that a single person that was killed in the WTC on 9/11 had a single thing to do with creating terrorism, yet we must ask whom exactly were the actual victims of the atrocity?

    Also, I hear all of this hoopla about how cruel America is, and that “we are wrong to change people from another part of the world –who obviously don’t want to be changed“.

    I say, who are we to turn a blind eye to atrocities like stoning women to death, for reading or speaking their minds? Why should we ignore this crime against humanity?

    Given the power and the prestige of America, it is widely known and accepted that America is the harbinger for freedom, if ever eventually foreseen. In the history of mankind, who else has ever actually fought for the freedom of others?

    This is just something to ponder.

    Politics these days makes me so ill, because it isn’t a matter of who has good ideas. It’s more or less a matter of whose ideas suck the least.

    As far as labels go, I say perhaps its best to live by the one the most fundamental of mottos that my, and most other good mothers have said:

    If you don’t have anything good to say about someone, then don’t say anything at all.

    Just a few words of wisdom for you, –all for free, just for visiting my blog.

    Thank you, and you’re welcome.

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  8. “Back to the article however, I do not see the comparison that you suggest.”

    so? others do. are you suggesting the historical analogy does not exist simply because you do not see it?

    perhaps inform yourself about matters of society and history before debating such.

    “Also, I do not think that any Americans are suggesting that since the enemy is our enemy, that we should not afford them human rights.”

    you think? well i know there are those that do, since i have heard them with my own ears and eyes. wake up and smell the coffee, bubba!

    “I say, who are we to turn a blind eye to atrocities like stoning women to death, for reading or speaking their minds? Why should we ignore this crime against humanity?”

    (your righteous indignation i find grotesque, btw)
    who are we? well … we, who should take the plank from our own eyes, before reaching out the remove the sliver from someone else’s, that’s who! we, who have elected representatives that prey upon, or contribute to the preying upon of, teenage boys. we, who FUND the zionists in israel, including their terrorism against the people of gaza and the west bank. we, who have taken sides in this war, which was never ours, save for the fact that we made it ours out of greed, not a desire to promote human rights! we who are attempting to help ourselves to the natural resources of the middle east under the guide of protecting freedom.

    “Given the power and the prestige of America, it is widely known and accepted that America is the harbinger for freedom, if ever eventually foreseen. In the history of mankind, who else has ever actually fought for the freedom of others?”

    once again. read your history. recall that america, that harbinger of freedom, chose NOT TO get involved in WW2 until after pearl habour, despite the urgings of churchill, who seemed to be the only one who saw hilter for what he really was. make no mistake about it, america has always only ‘fought for freedom’ when out of self-interest. hypocrisy abounds!

    “if you don’t have anything good to say about someone, then don’t say anything at all.”

    why don’t you follow your own advice then? and go kick sand into someone else’s eyes? or do you derive pleasure from coming to my blog just dump your falsely founded and mildly derisive fallicious arguements?

    i must say … i’m quite pleased with your reaction though. the fact that you spent so much time, and came back more than once, to attack this post tells me that i have hit a nerve.

    many thanx for your thoughts.

    oh … and one more thing. what i enjoy about america? that i’m not american. that america is on the other side of the 49th parallel.

    oh … and perhaps you should not presume to psychoanalyze me and attribute to me emotions such as anger, BASED ON READING ONE POST!

  9. “I have heard arguments from you and many others that America created this terror.”

    my friend, apathy and ignorance are among the two greatest forms of terrorism. american is culpable on both counts. so is the entire west, for that matter.

  10. clearly, brent, your idea of wisdom differs vastly from mine. what you have shared here is little more than emotionally-driven rhetoric.

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